were she to run, there would be more people out there trying to pick her apart, chris. it would be worse than in 2008. she's also -- she's very much tied to the obama presidency, which could mean if he has a fantastic four years, that's good for her. on the other hand, the media are so fickle. we all know this. that there would be people, you know, out there gunning for her. al gore was not able to become president on the strength of the clinton presidency, so, you know, there's just a lot -- there are a lot of land mines in the way. i think she could do it, but, again, she'd really have to decide why she wants to be president and tell that story to the american people and make it be about 2016, not 2008 or 2000. >> i think clinton -- i think bill clinton rises and falls, but she always rises, but your thoughts, governor, last quick thought. >> chris, just think as we discuss this issue, think of who is out there in the democratic party that could actually make a serious challenge to her right now. i certainly agree that the general election would be, you know, nip and tuck and would be hard fought, but who is out there that could preempt her?